I've been having an exchange with a woman on POF. She saw my profile and took the time to write "Hey, my brother is gay, there's nothing wrong with it - maybey you should try it!!!"
She seemed to be wanting to have a little fun at my expense, so I decided to play with her. Here's the rest of our convo:
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Your conversation with addisyn
steve44077oh
5/23/2012 8:54:56 AM
I am wondering though, what inspired you to suggest that I should try going gay?
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addisyn
5/23/2012 9:21:50 AM
I
Have alot of Gay friends that are awesome, and Maybey that willwork for
you too!!! Just because you paint your toe nails dosen't me your gay,
but maybey you should try that lifestyle because there is nothing wrong
with it!!! Good Luck to you!!! Let me know what happens!!!
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steve44077oh
5/23/2012 6:24:05 PM
Ok...
I just went to Flickr and looked at some photos of guys' boners, and a
few shots of dudes getting it on. Nothing happened. No tingling, no
stiffening, no erectile function at all. OTOH, when I looked at women
touching themselves, the reaction was instant and complete. I'm very
sure that I wouldn't be able to perform an act of gay sex - it would be
easier (though not much) for me to get busy with Madeline Albright.
How about you? Have you ever made love to a woman, or gotten yourself off thinking about what you would do to make her painted toes curl?? You seem to have a fascination with the gay lifestyle - maybe you should try it if you haven't already! :D |
addisyn
5/24/2012 8:10:33 AM
LOL!!! I have a few Encounters with them, But I rather be with a man. Good Luck To You!!!
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steve44077oh
5/24/2012 12:49:49 PM
I'm
always amused by how many women say "OMG - you paint your nails?? Are
you sure you're not gay?"... when their own histories include multiple
same-sex encounters and they're NOT asking themselves "OMG - I had sex
with a woman, and liked it enough to do it a few more times - am I sure
I'm not gay?"
I mean, nail polish is really just paint, the only thing that "makes" it "for women" is the same arbitrary, random social assumtion that used to say "tattoos are or men only, any woman with a tattoo is probaly a dyke". OTOH, a woman having sex with a woman is actually doing something that is actually gay. She doesn't have to BE gay to do a gay thing - I think you're proof of that - but same-sex sex is a lot more relevant to the gayness question than a bottle of paint. Just sayin'... I mean, I ask everybody "what is it about this bottle of paint that makes it feminine - what are the reasons a man should not wear it?" The only answers I ever get are: '"everybody" thinks it is', and 'I've never seen a man wearing it'. If you have a different answer, I'd love to hear it! Anyway, thanks for a fun and interesting discussion! Good luck to you too! |
addisyn
5/24/2012 1:08:21 PM
Well
One must ask themself-- Why do you like to paint your toes and nails?
and What makes you think that it is Weird? or Femine? Maybey you want to
be a woman? or have Woman Tendencies? Who Knows or cares, That really
isn't a reason to for someone not to go out with you!!! Do you paint
your nails at work? Would you? and Do you really care what others think?
Society is unreal, They look at everthing black and White!!! I do
not!!! But people Find that strange!! Are you in a band? Anyway-
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steve44077oh
5/24/2012 8:56:26 PM
Ok..
I like to wear color on my nails for the same reason many people get
tattoos - because I think it looks good, and it's a form of
self-expression.
I don't think it's "weird". I recognize that it's uncommon among men, but to me, what's "weird" is the idea many people have that paint is somehow related to gender identity or preference. I also don't think it IS feminine. I know that PEOPLE THINK it is feminine, but there's no real reason to think that, only their assumption of what other people think. Try this thought experiment: Imagine that we're a couple, and I have a machine that can transport us to an alternate universe. Imagine that the AU is exactly like ours in every way except that the societal assumptions about nail color, and hats, are swapped. In other words, we go to a place where it's no big deal for men or women to wear nail color, but the only people wearing hats are women. All hats are made in feminine styles - there are no ballcaps, no berets, no fedoras, no cowboy hats, no military covers... only tiaras, bridal veils, pink French pillboxes and wide-brimmed pastel summer hats. Looking around their internet, I find four companies that are making "Men's Hats", and I order a green ballcap, and wear it publicly. Almost everyone there wonders if I might be gay, after all.. I'm wearing a hat, and hats are for women.. "real men" don't shade their eyes from the sun. NOW, imagine we meet your twin there, the alternate "you", and she asks why you're with a gay guy in a girly hat. Would you tell her that there's no REAL connection between a hat and gender identity or preference? Would you tell her that you can imagine a place (this place we came from) where hats are acceptable attire regardless of gender? Would you tell her that by following everyone else's silly idea about "hats are feminine", she's missing out on a really great guy? OR - would you ask me to please hide my ballcap, because everyone there THINKS it's gay? That's about where I am. I see our society with an idea every bit as silly as "hats are feminine", I can imagine a world where anyone can use nail color as "acceptably" as they can get tattoos, and I think the only thing keeping our society stuck in this silly idea, is that everyone's afraid to go first, everyone's afraid of questioning the rule, and everyone's worried about what others will think. I'm not afraid to go first, and I don't care what strangers think. I do care what YOU think though, which is why I've bothered to explain myself a little. I HOPE you'll at least try to examine WHY you feel the way you do about nail color, and consider that it might be possible for a man to wear nail color as a man, without "woman tendencies" or "trying to look like a woman". Finally, quickly... google "Crowe Gladiator Photo", or pop in the DVD if you have it. Look for a photo where you can see Crowe's knees. Look closely at what he's wearing... Does he look like a woman? |
addisyn
5/25/2012 3:53:54 PM
Hey
Steve there is a person on the akron personals that would be perfect
foryou!!! "Just looking for acceptance is on her profile"
under-6gffw-3036801307@pers.craigslist.org- Good Luck!!!
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steve44077oh
5/25/2012 6:54:36 PM
That's
cute... but "she" is looking for a woman - NEITHER of us is looking for
a partner with a dick. We're definitely not a match.
"She" and I also have a totally opposite viewpoint regarding nail color. I'm presuming a bit, but I'd bet that when "she" crossdresses, "she" wears nail color BECAUSE "she" considers it to be feminine. I couldn't disagree more. When I wear nail color, it's NOT "to look like a woman" - my point is that nail color is not related to gender, and whether I'm wearing it or not, my masculinity is not affected. And, anyone who thinks about it, and decides that there's something about nail color that makes it "for women only", is a moron. Most people aren't morons, they're sheep - they've never thought about it, they just accept "the way things are" without thinking, and they don't question the herd because they're afraid of standing apart from it. A sheep has no identity except what they get from being part of the herd of sheep (that's why "sheep" is both a singular and plural noun.) It's OK to be a sheep - sad, but OK... and it's OK to be a moron if one chooses to be a moron. It's EVEN ok for one to TRY to bully another, pick on them and try to hurt their feelings based on assinine prejudices - just as long as they're honest and admit to themselves that they're NOT 'defending an important cultural value', they're perpetrating intolerance, prejudice and hatred. I say "TRY", because I am immune to bullying - I know the bully is wrong, I recognize that they're making a pathetic, desperate attempt to elevate their miniscule self-esteem by grabbing onto someone they see above them and dragging them down. I give the bully no respect at all, so I deny them the power to hurt me. I am so far above the common bully that all I feel for them is pity. I laugh in their bigoted, piggish faces and leave them with less self-esteem than they had before. But, it's Friday, I'm headed to the casino, so I have to go paint my nails. Take care. |
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As you can see, she made it clear throughout that she associates nail color with femininity, and on a man, nail color translates to gayness. I asked her several times to think about, and provide some explanation WHY - and she couldn't do it. And, she failed to persuade me to adopt her POV or to embarrass me for wearing nail color. She failed on all points, and her pitiful attempt is hysterically funny to me. So, I thought I'd share the laugh.
Stay polished, my friends.
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